Friday, October 17, 2008

After Reading 9

Could the same thing happen to Tom Robinson today? Explain why or why not.

15 comments:

Maria S. said...

Depends on where Tom Robinson lives and comitted his crime, but usually, in some places, things would not have been the same. There are some people today that are racist, but not to the extent of calling n@#$%-lover to a person that is appointed to such a case. Also, they would at least make the trial fair, choosing an imparcial jury unknown to the case.
I think that now-a-days people have more respect to one another and are more conscious about people's beliefs and ideas.They aren't as ignorant as they were before.
I am not sure why people were that way before, but almost in every place Europeans set foot onto, they believed they were smarter than the natives. Humans always believe they are better than one another, even in families. For example a sibling is prettier than the other. The pretty sibling will be racist, egocentric, and discriminative toward the other sibling, even if he/she is much smarter than the he/she.
In short, Tom Robinson would have been treated better today than in the early 1900s.

Anonymous said...

I believe that Tom Robinson, since he isn't really guilty as we find out later in the book, would have never been acussed of commiting this crime. Also, people would have more respect towards the lawyer, in this case Atticus Finch, maybe causing other, better lawyers to want to defend Tom. But unfortunatly there still is a lot of racism going on in the world. I don't know if I should apreciate the fact that some people have enough respect towards african-american people to, during that time call them negroes instead of the word which is even worse and starts with "n" and ends with "r". But I guess that at that time the word, i apologize for using it again since it isn't very politicaly correct, negroe was as correct as the word "african-american". But it seems to me that we the humans have as a born trait, the fact that we are racist and descriminate. Only very few, if any people, make it through life without having a descriminating thought or saying something racist.

Jenny K said...

skorine“I don’t know, but they did it. They’ve done it before and they did it tonight and they’ll do it again…” (Lee 213)
Just like Atticus said they will do it again, yes I think it is possible for the same thing to Tom Robinson today. The world isn’t as injustice as before, but it is possible to happen.
It is true that the black people are respected than before and that the world is more justice. However some people still think they are superior to black people. Bob Ewell will dissemble himself and act like if he was the good and he won’t talk directly as in the novel. Tom Robinson will be on a higher position with more respect, but he will be found guilty if people thinks white people are superior to black people.

Aub said...

Note: I have not read any of the other entries for this post, so I'm sorry if I repeat already said things.

Tom Robinson is (well, was) a respectable man. Though, most people treated him like dirt because of his dark complexion. The treating of black poeple poorly (horribly) was a lot more common and intense back in the time of the book than now. Tom was accused of rape, a crime which he was not guilty of committing. For one reason or another, Mr. and Mayella Ewell decided to set him up by making the false claim the Tom was in fact a rapist. I think everyone knew otherwise. Tom ended up in jail and later shot anyways.

".... I'd let Tom Robinson go so quick the Missionary Society wouldn't have time to catch it's breath..." (234)

Back then people threw blacks in jail just for being black. The jury needed no evidence; they just made the call as the pleased. I think that it is obvious that the would not have happened to today (well, in the US at least, hopefully). Like religion, opinion is separate from law (in most countries). In most places the accused undergo an unbiased and fair trial. There should be enough evidence to jail the defendant and a jury that does not care about the outcome one way or another. In theory Tom was crippled enough to destroy every bit of evidence against him.

Although Tom being jailed would have been an unlikely outcome today, there is still racism everywhere. You can't stop people from insulting one another because they are a different color. People will be the way they are, and racist thoughts are not illegal. Though, I don't think many will be quite fond of you if you are racist.

Anonymous said...

Yes and no. Yes because there are some states where there is complete racism againt black people. They would not care if the person is inoccent, but they would want the person gone. They would make them selves superior.
But in other states, where there is no racism, they would make a fair trial, and have no favorite. These two examples depend were the person is located.

Unknown said...

I agree with Maria and Isabela. Today there are still places in the United States where racism still stands strong. If Tom Robinson would have gone to a trial in the deep South of the country he would prbably have a hard time walking around the town afterwards but probably not killed. Most of the country has intergrated with African-Americans so the government would probably do something if Tom Robinson had been harmed. In the rest of the country, which is more than half of the states, there would not be a problem with Tom Robinson being in a trial because Aftrican-Americans are seen as equal to the rest of the people in of the country.

adrian said...
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adrian said...

No, and I repeat myself No, I absolutely do NOT think that this could happen in today’s world. Why? Because the laws and jury’s are now more "civilized" than before. By saying civilized i mean that now people are not so racist and neither is the law. I belief that in the U.S.A the law is fair enough to let this not happen again, and without the concern they had for racism in those days all I can call this part of the trial is…Rubbish.

Tom Robinsons trail is to me inexcusable. If I were to have been there no matter what I would have fought to get Tom out of this mess because I knew that in Atticus's heart and the Jury’s they knew that Tom was innocent. Bob Ewell had to be in his place but “I don’t know, but they did it. They’ve done it before and they did it tonight and they’ll do it again” Lee 213.

adrian said...

In response to what Aubrey said.

Aubrey,

Thank you! Thank you for making this point clear. Everybody should think like that. I completely agree with your comment that said: "thoughts arent illegal".

Uin Kim said...

I disagree with Adrian because not everyone thinks like us. Even now, there are racist people even in the government. It is true that the verdict of Tom Robinson’s trial is unfair, and I am in total agreement with that thought. Some parts of the United States, as Isabela, Sheril, and Maria mentioned, are still almost as racist as Maycomb in the 1930s. In some states of the U.S. your opinion would be partly true, and in some states it would be completely wrong.

andy said...

Well if it were in Maycomb, then it would be completely different. First of all, he would probably feel more confident with the fact that people accept you more by the way you are instead of who you are. By this I mean that you could be extremely fat but a very nice person. In the old days, Scout was not accepted into society because she was a tomboy. If this were to happen today, then she would be fully accepted since she is such a nice person. The same thing would happen to boo. At the end of the story we find out that he is actually an extremely nice person and loves to be with people and actually fit in as part of the public. All in all, it would be completely different.

sora cho said...

I agree with what Isabela said. I think that this kind of judgment can happen rarely. There might be a time where there is racism in the court, mostly in the South. No, it doesn't occur almost all around the world, since most people have changed since then. Since people have different beliefs and thoughts, not all people would agree with being fair with the African-Americans. There have been lots of good changes since then, especially in the court. If something like what happened to Tom Robinson occurred today, people would be infuriated and the trial would be held someplace else.

yellowtyson said...

I disagree with what Adrian said because not everyone has an open-mind and many are still racist. It really depends on the people who are involved. I agree with Yannick. I also think that it might be different these days, but there is still racism going on. People won't be so harsh on Tom Robinson as they did in Maycomb, but it might as well happen in some places. There is not so much injustice now though.

andy said...

I completely disagree with isabella with her method of the Yes and No. First of all, every Judge must be well trained to look at the data and all the evidence before making a decision if it even make one. Second, you would just tell without looking at the facial expression of Mayella that she was lying. You could just tell that she was nervous and that she was afraid of her father in every way. She was completely horrified that her father had beat her and left her on the ground. You would have to be the dumbest person in the world to think that a man who never used his left hand could easily beat a girl and strangle her using only one hand. Society today is far better and wiser than it was 50 or even 30 years ago. It is able to make wise decisions even if the evidence is not there to support it.

Jacky Mejia said...

I also disagree with Adrian because today many people are still racist. The result of the trial would depend on where it is (location), and on how "civilized" the jury is. Yes, times have changed, but not all the people have. Some people are still racist against African-Americans, others are racist against Asians. If the trial would take in a community like Maya, justice would be made no matter his differences with the others.