Friday, October 17, 2008

After Reading 3

Describe Atticus' relationship with Jem and Scout and contrast it with their relationship to
Aunt Alexandra.

16 comments:

Jenny K said...

Atticus is a firm father to Jem and Scout. He bothers to listen and solve problems Jem and Scout have. Jem and Scout rely on Atticus. They listen to Atticus and take his advice. Aunt Alexandra is Atticus’s sister and Jem and Scout’s aunt. She believes it is important to women to have good manners and be ladylike. Scout, however doesn’t wear dresses, or learn how to be a ‘lady’. Instead, she plays with Jem. The ladylike Aunt Alexandra contrast with the tomboy, Scout. Jem and Scout don’t like Aunt Alexandra. She tries to correct them instead of trying to understand them. The relationship Jem and Scout have with Atticus is definitely different to the relationship they have with Aunt Alexandra. Atticus is similar to an advisor to Jem and Scout. Aunt Alexandra is similar to a stubborn neighbor who doesn’t want to accept anything that differs to her point of view.

Unknown said...

I very much agree with everything Jenny said, but in advance i think some things have to be added.

Yes Atticus is Jem and scouts Guide /advisor, but he is still their father, hence I think there is some kind of unconditional love taking place. Aunt Alexandra is also a relative to Jem and Scout, but she in some way dislikes them because they do not follow her "etiquette"

Anonymous said...

Atticus is a really great father to Jem and Scout. Atticus always gives good advice to them and they listen. He always helps them and teaches them a lesson once in a while. He tells them a lesson when he thinks that it is about time. Jem and Scout really like Atticus because he gets what they are feeling and tells them the right thing to do. He just makes it clear the Jem and Scout and they really understand him a lot more. Atticus treats Jem and Scout in a way so that they could think of what is right and what is wrong. So that Jem and Scout could really think about what is happening. Aunt Alexandra believes that to be a true lady you dress up well, being social and using manners. She can’t stand up for what is right. Jem and Scout don’t like Aunt Alexandra because everything has to be in a good way and not the other.

Augusta A said...

I think that the relationship that Atticus, Scout, and Jem have is incredibly beautiful. This because Atticus is one of those fathers who are strict because he wants the best for his son and daughter but at the same time hes a very nice man, who helps them whenever they need something. He has a very particular way of makink his children learn lessons. As we later see in the book, he doesn't give his kids a lecture about everything, but he either shows it to them or he tells it to someone else, knowing that Scout is near by. Scout and Aunt Alexandra don't really get along though, because as Jenny said Alexandra like manners very much, and pretty much all Scout cares about is to have fun with her brother,even though she is a girl thing that is completely unacceptable for Aunt Alexandra.

Maria S. said...

I think that Atticus relationship with his children is a little mature. He talks and treats Jem and Scout as grownups and he lets them do whatever they want. He actually doesn’t mind about looks that is why Scout can go around with breeches on. The story is a little different with Aunt Alexandra.
I truly believe that Aunt Alexandra isn’t mean and she actually wants to protect the children. It can be justified that she wants Scout to wear dresses because looks in the world mean everything. They wouldn’t actually take seriously a girl that wears breeches, no matter how smart she is.
I think Aunt Alexandra is needed in this house because Atticus is staying away from home most of the time and I believe that the children need someone to stand with them and hold them. Maybe even teach them something about the world around them that’s what I believe is the relationship of Aunt Alexandra compared to Atticus’.

Fernanda F. said...

The relationship between Jem and Scout is very strait. Every time Atticus wants to say something to them he does and he tells them why. He things that it is better to tell them the truth than not, and then they will know it sooner or later. But Aunt Alexandra things that this is wrong because she says they will not understand it. As well they do not like Aunt Alexandra but they like Atticus because he is there father.

Uin Kim said...

Atticus and Alexandra both try to teach Scout and Jem something, but they are trying to teach different things, and they do it in a different way. What Aunt Alexandra wants them to know are the Southern manners. She is strict about it, and she does not do it in a nice way. What Atticus wants to teach Jem and Scout is a wholly different thing. Atticus does not care whether or not Scout acts like a boy, unlike Alexandra. I think Atticus is trying to let them slowly know that life is cruel. When they suddenly learn about the world, he thinks it will be too painful. He is trying to take it step by step. Alexandra is open in her teachings, but Atticus is more subtle. He cares about them more than Alexandra, and that makes sense since he is their father.

Isabela Schmucker said...

Atticus is a dear and kind father to Jem and Scout. They're bond is unbreakable. Atticus is always teaching and guiding them to be raised up well. He is always there for Jem and Scout. Especially since Jem and Scout have no mother, there time spent with Atticus is so much, making there bond stronger. Jem and Scout really love Atticus, even if he isn't the most popular father around in Maycomb. Atticus and his children have a very strong bond, whereas Aunt Alexandra and Jem, Scout aren't very close. Alexandra is quite bossy. Aunt Alexandra is always telling Scout that she needs to act like a lady, not like some filthy rodent. She wants Scout to pretty and prim just like all the other girls. Scout gets very annoyed with her aunt. Jem probably thinks that Aunt Alexandra isn't the best person in the world either.

yellowtyson said...

Atticus is a real kind and caring father to Scout and Jem. He wants the best for them and teaches them about how they should behave. He is more attentive to what is happening in his children's lives. He pays attention to what they do and he gives them good advice to follow. Scout and Jem trust a lot in Atticus because he is a wise man. The children's relationship might be better with Atticus, but both Atticus and Aunt Alexandra want the best for them. They both try to teach Scout and Jem something, yet they behave differently. Atticus is more comprehensive with his children and does what he thinks is right. On the other hand, Aunt Alexandra wants Scout to follow the common Southern lady. She wants Scout to be ladylike, sociable, and have good manners. Alexandra teaches them stuff in a more direct and strict way. Atticus tries to teach them slowly and cares more about their wellbeing.

Unknown said...

I think that Atticus is a good father. He tells everything that is going on with the kids even though things are important, he tells them. Jem ans Scout always take the advices that Atticus tell them and that is becuase they do not know anoher way. Then comes Aunt Alexandra and they ignore her, or hate her, because all the advices or things she wants too do are much more different than Aticus's. Aticus is like an advisor, and Aunt Alexandra is trying to ruin their lives, from the point of view from Jem and Scout.

Unknown said...

I agree with everyone else. Atticus is firm when he needs to be with Scout and Jem. He also understands their points of view. Atticus is more relaxed about things, making it easier for Scout and Jem to tell him most of what their opinions are. In contrast, Aunt Alexandra is distant from the children. I agree with Uin that both Atticus and Aunt Alexandra are trying to teach the Scout and Jem something. Aunt Alexandra is trying to teach the children to act more like a Southerner would, so that she can have a "normal" family and keep the reputation of the family good.

adrian said...

Atticus's relationship with Jem and Scout is very, very strong. Atticus acts as a guide to Jem and Scout. Atticus helps his kids at all times and is always there to help them. Atticus is also a very firm and strong hearted man and the way that he influences Scout and Jem amazes me.

Aunt Alexandra is a very classical and mannered woman who has always in someway picked on Atticus because of Scout's not lady-like manners. She has always had a strong hand at educating Scout and "putting her in her place". In some point of the book Alexandra comes into Atticus, Jem, and Scout's life to "put order and teach Scout some lady manners".

Atticus aside from Alexandra is very calm and easy on Jem and scout. Atticus never loses his temper at neither Scout nor Jem. Atticus supports and encourages Jem and Scout in every benign way unless its bad, then he takes a firm hand and tells them right from wrong. in the other hand Aunt Alexandra is more picky and strong handed about things. She came into the Finch household to put rules into their lives. Of course the kids dont like this because its against their entire lifestyle. Aunt literally interrupts their life and just makes an outrage; she even tried to fire Cal!

Jacky Mejia said...

Atticus relationship with Jem and Scout is different than other father to kids relationship. Atticus wants his children to know what is going on in Maycomb while other parents, might not tell them, or want them to know. Their relationship with Aunt Alexandra is very different. Although Aunt Alexandra is only Atticus sister she wants to be like Jem's and Scout's mother. She does not want the kids to know about the bad things in town, she wants them to act like they are supposed to be acting, she want to take over Atticus role, and guide Jem and Scout through. Their relationship with their father is better than their relationship with Aunt Alexandra because Atticus understands them. Aunt Alexandra does not, she just wants to keep the family name up high.

Anonymous said...

I agree with every thing that Jenny said about Atticus. But I have a different point of view what concerns Aunt Alexandra. I believe that she is worse than a stubborn neighbor. She has more influence over the children and deserves more respect than just any neighbor since she is Atticus sister. A neighbor would just start to say what is on her mind with nobody following her advice. But since Aunt Alexandra is Jem ans Scout's aunt, she has influence and her disaproval of something has to be taken in account and has an impact.

andy said...

The thing with Jem and Scout's relationship with Atticus is that it is very strong unlike Aunt Alexandra's. Aunt Alexandra has a similar attitude of Maycomb. They are both racist with blacks and they are both very strict with their children. The way that Atticus does things is with a little more freedom. He lets Jem and Scout explore the town and gives them some freedom to do what they want. He also looks at the Black people as being like anyone in Maycomb. He believes that one should have an open mind instead of simply listening to other people and agreeing without thinking deep. For instance, Boo Radley is a figure that is rejected in the town and only thought of as being bad. Atticus looks at the facts that nobody has ever seen him before and that he leaves gum in the tree hole to make a better judgement. Jem and Scout really admire this from Atticus. Aunt Alexandra has a very narrow mind that simply looks at the bare facts, sees if people agree with it and simply agrees with it. For instance, the idea of blacks being unequal is an extremely popular thought. She recognizes that it is and blends into the public. So, the thing is that Jem and Scout find Atticus far more wise and allows them some freedom. So, they heve a far better relation with him.

sora cho said...

Atticus' relationship with the children is that he gives the children a chance to express their own feelings and thoughts. He tries and does comprehend the children. Even though the children might do wrong, he does not scold them right away. He first hears their complaints and their point of views. Instead of only lecturing the children, he explains why he is doing so and shows them to do right. Even though Atticus does not spend much time with the children, the children can feel that he does care for them. In the other hand, Aunt Alexandra only cares for the image, since their name is so important. She does not want to understand the children, and only thinks what is right for her. She does not consider the feelings of the children and what they think. Aunt Alexandra expects too much from the children because they are from the Finch. She thinks that it is her job to raise them "appropriately" by teaching them manners, and how to be formal. Instead of only considering her own thoughts, she should at least try to listen to the children.